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Old 12-04-2014, 12:58 PM   #1201
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So, like music and film?
We're talking about censorship on terms of not selling it right? Yeah I'd say Target and Kmart have the right to not sell whatever they please.
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@Steven- GTA games have almost no female characters that aren't whores or potential "dates" for your main character. The only reasonable one I could find in GTA5 is a very minor character who has almost no screen time and has no development besides just being a driver on a mission.

It's actually kinda odd because Rockstar had good female characters in Red Dead Redemption so it's not like the concept is foreign to them. Apparently they think the GTA fans can't deal with real depictions of women. Well whores are real but you know what I mean.


@DN- Walmart has been censoring/banning music in their stores for years but apparently no one cares because they can't link it to feminists or SJWs.
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We're talking about censorship on terms of not selling it right? Yeah I'd say Target and Kmart have the right to not sell whatever they please.
My mistake. I read your post as you found the concept of art being sold to a mass market disagreeable, not the censoring of.

@DB: Wal~Mart refusing to sell uncensored CDs was a large controversy back in the late 90's early 2000's. No one cares anymore because no one buys CDs anymore.
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@Steven- GTA games have almost no female characters that aren't whores or potential "dates" for your main character. The only reasonable one I could find in GTA5 is a very minor character who has almost no screen time and has no development besides just being a driver on a mission.

It's actually kinda odd because Rockstar had good female characters in Red Dead Redemption so it's not like the concept is foreign to them. Apparently they think the GTA fans can't deal with real depictions of women. Well whores are real but you know what I mean.


@DN- Walmart has been censoring/banning music in their stores for years but apparently no one cares because they can't link it to feminists or SJWs.
So am I correct in my assumption that violence against men in GTA V is more prominent than violence against women?

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In response to the GTA banning, DB you'll get a kick outta this:

https://www.change.org/p/target-with...and-kill-women

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And the petition to bring in back to the shelves.

https://www.change.org/p/target-cont...ustralia/share
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Old 12-04-2014, 03:55 PM   #1205
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I don't like this whole affair. The harassment only gives the harassed a larger sphere of influence.
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Brianna wu is one of the most retarded SJWs out there, here is another fine example of her "empowering women"
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@Steven- Yeah violence against men happens more in GTA but that's because the major/minor characters are like 99% guys. If you count the random citizens then who knows what the number would be.

They should ban the bible it's a horrible book.

Petitions are pretty laughable usually but if Target Australia believes that a majority of the people signing are potential customers then it might work. Or they might see how hypocritical the ban is, but I doubt that.

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It's actually kinda odd because Rockstar had good female characters in Red Dead Redemption so it's not like the concept is foreign to them. Apparently they think the GTA fans can't deal with real depictions of women. Well whores are real but you know what I mean.
Red Dead Redemption was made by Rockstar San Fransisco, GTA 5 was made by Rockstar North in the UK thats the main difference
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@Steven- Yeah violence against men happens more in GTA but that's because the major/minor characters are like 99% guys. If you count the random citizens then who knows what the number would be.

They should ban the bible it's a horrible book.

Petitions are pretty laughable usually but if Target Australia believes that a majority of the people signing are potential customers then it might work. Or they might see how hypocritical the ban is, but I doubt that.
Actually, it was a petition from the same site that got them to change in the first place. Come to find out, a lot of the petitions votes (I've heared reports to up to 60%) were opposed to the change and were indicating it in the comments. Target did not read the comments and took the number as total supporters. I don't know why people thought they should fight the petition by signing it but they did.

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@Steven- Yeah violence against men happens more in GTA but that's because the major/minor characters are like 99% guys. If you count the random citizens then who knows what the number would be.
Okay, so they are basically saying "we want the game off the shelf because of what the game allows the player to do" not "we want the game off the shelves because of what the game requires the player to do"

I was reading about a scene where you actually torture a crying man begging for his life by water boarding and stuff... Witch the game requires you to do.
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Old 12-04-2014, 08:40 PM   #1210
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@Katz- That helps explain it thanks.

@Steven- I think the ban is stupid because it's so focused on the treatment of women, so we do kinda agree on this. It looks really hypocritical when the game is specifically designed to be about committing crimes, it's even named after one. Before the switch to 3D I remember one of the GTAs had you blowing up a police station for a mission so this is not a recent thing either.

Like I said though I think this could be a good thing in the bigger picture because it makes people talk about these issues, even if the talk isn't very productive.
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Old 12-05-2014, 11:11 AM   #1211
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I don't get it.
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Old 12-05-2014, 04:22 PM   #1213
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It's odd that more people didn't just see "chan" and put negative.

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>inb4 Iwata takes all the credit
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I hesitated to say this before and realize it's kind of backward thinking but here goes:

Include a playable female character in the next GTA game and equip her with the ability to go around harming/ humiliating/ degrading male characters.

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Problem solved?
Both of my girls loved Bloodrayne and I never heard a single complaint about how she harmed/ humiliated/ degraded the male characters in those games.




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I hesitated to say this before and realize it's kind of backward thinking but here goes:

Include a playable female character in the next GTA game and equip her with the ability to go around harming/ humiliating/ degrading male characters.

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Problem solved?
Both of my girls loved Bloodrayne and I never heard a single complaint about how she harmed/ humiliated/ degraded the male characters in those games.



If that is was the writer and director want, then yes. If it is because of pressure from SJW's then no.
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If that is was the writer and director want, then yes. If it is because of pressure from SJW's then no.
But how would you know the difference?
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But how would you know the difference?
If it was pressure from SJW's, we hear about it because they would be shouting it out of a megaphone drowning everyone else out.

They just got the girl who draws this webcomic fired from her job:



Also they managed to get a character removed from the NA version of Tekken 7:

http://ca.ign.com/articles/2014/12/0...ng-lucky-chloe

This was not self proclaimed SJW's mind you, this was good old Neogaf, who are as whole, have strong SJW/anti-GG tendencies. I'd likely never buy the game myself, but holy crap that's such a stupid thing for them to do, and even more so retarded for Harada to actually listen to them.

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But how would you know if it's caving to the pressure or if the devs considered their points and changed their minds?

Also that Tekken character is pretty lame. When I first saw it I did what my sig is doing right now. It's just so lazy.
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Gotta love how his brain processed the whole thing:

-Gaf complains about the character citing stuff that is hugely popular in japan
-Harada takes this as an attack against Japanese culture, deems it racist
-Replaces character with a skinhead

Haha, that is awesome.

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It doesn't matter if it's A or B, an annoying vocal minority should never be influencing game content due to their personal politics just because they scream the loudest.
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Yeah but to them you and your side are the annoying vocal minority trying to influence game content. Who says you're right and they're wrong? Shouldn't every gamer have the right to try and influence game development according to their tastes? Shouldn't it be up to the individual devs to decide who they wanna cater to?
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So, there could have been one of the cutest Catgirls ever in a game, but because someone who probably would never have played the game in the first place complained about it being sexist, no Catgirl?
Is this correct?
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