Game Secrets/tips

[DrunkN]

Originally Posted by Demon-Mask

I have a tip for any Shin Megami Tensei game: Law ending is always best ending. Don't worry about chaos and neutral.

That doesn't apply for the original game though, does it?

If I remember correctly, doesn't everyone, through coercion, live by strict laws? Trembling, fearful, trapped in gods' paws?

[Tails]

Originally Posted by Demon-Mask

Chaos is scum.
Not really but, I prefer law significantly in any game. Even if the law endings in SMT games can be scary.

Hey being completely evil is awesome.

[Demon-Mask]

The second one is like that, it starts assuming the first game ended with the law ending, where the angels prevailed and have oppressed everyone's free will.
The first one starts on a normal day in normal Japan, until the Demon Summoning Program surfaces.

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Originally Posted by Tails

Hey being completely evil is awesome.

Law is Stalin/Hitler/Mussolini evil. I prefer being that kind of evil.

[Tails]

Destroying everything? That's awesome.

[Demon-Mask]

Not so much, I'd prefer to build everything up at the expense of everyone's freedom.
Besides, Chaos means siding with Satan, and SMT's Satan is creepy as hell.
Possibly NSFW?

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[Tails]

Def NSFW xD

Eh I go with whatever is the best way to complete something.

[Demon-Mask]

Actually, my first playthrough in any SMT game has me responding how I would in reality, which ends up giving me a law alignment.
It is best to do neutral last because you fight the powered up chaos being, the powered up law being and another true final boss. If you've already fought the law and chaos bosses, you know how to deal with them much more effectively.

[Tails]

So it's based on text and not slaughtering people?

[Demon-Mask]

You can't just kill NPCs.
It's based upon how you deal with certain situations. How do you answer this question, do you take this guy's advice and go left to kill this demon, or do you follow the other guy's advice to go right and kill this other demon. That kind of thing, sometimes gameplay decisions and sometimes answering questions in the text.

[Tails]

Oh, that's different in feda. Basically you can't kill these morphed humans even though you get high EXP. Or do you avoid a battle or not.

[Demon-Mask]

Feda seems like an interesting game.
Of course avoiding combat will end up with you having low experience.

[Tails]

It was on the game club one month. I loved it but it got real buggy in the end. Thank the lord I had powerful characters.

[Kong]

Originally Posted by Tails

I went chaos in Feda, for EXP reasons.

I don't think you got more experience for being chaos. After each battle it gave you bonus points if you followed the mission objective. If you were evil then you could get exp points from killing people but I think in the end the bonus mission points were higher.

I think the difference is if you are good everyone gets an equal share of the experience points. If you are evil then you can choose who gets the experience points by using specific characters to kill most enemies.

[Tails]

Originally Posted by Kong

I don't think you got more experience for being chaos. After each battle it gave you bonus points if you followed the mission objective. If you were evil then you could get exp points from killing people but I think in the end the bonus mission points were higher.

I think the difference is if you are good everyone gets an equal share of the experience points. If you are evil then you can choose who gets the experience points by using specific characters to kill most enemies.

The bio humans at the begining of the game gave like 60 EXP which buffed my characters fast by grinding. IMO it's way faster and easier than avoiding stuff.

[Demon-Mask]

Originally Posted by Tails

The bio humans at the begining of the game gave like 60 EXP which buffed my characters fast by grinding. IMO it's way faster and easier than avoiding stuff.

So, you got more experience in chaos because you spent time level grinding?
Not the same as more experience in a normal scenario, you know where you didn't grind.

[Kong]

Originally Posted by Demon-Mask

So, you got more experience in chaos because you spent time level grinding?

No, the game is like Shining Force. Grinding isn't possible.

[Tails]

Originally Posted by Kong

No, the game is like Shining Force. Grinding isn't possible.

In chaos it is. Just keep on going back and forth in some places and they keep on respawning.

[Demon-Mask]

Oh, okay.
I was unaware of that, thanks.
Does Tails maybe have the wrong idea of grinding?

The bio humans at the begining of the game gave like 60 EXP which buffed my characters fast by grinding. IMO it's way faster and easier than avoiding stuff.

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Originally Posted by Tails

In chaos it is. Just keep on going back and forth in some places and they keep on respawning.

Okay,that seems like grinding to me.

[Tails]

First chapter has you just going back and forth and getting hit with the bio humans.

[Kong]

Oh, I didn't know you were repeating battles. Yeah, that is grinding.

But the game gives you options of being bad and good by choosing who lives and dies without grinding.

[Tails]

Yeah, which is why I chose chaos - best opportunity.

[Kong]

Oh and the game labels you evil if you grind which is pretty cool.

[joz]

Originally Posted by Kong

No, the game is like Shining Force. Grinding isn't possible.

Incorrect. All you need to do is exit a fight with a spell the main character has and you go back to the last town. Then go in and repeat the same fight. That's how I would do it. Grinding is possible in Shining Force

[Tails]

Depends on what though, it tells you not to kill the bio humans but if you do you go into chaos - best EXP opportunity.

[Demon-Mask]

Originally Posted by Kong

Oh and the game labels you evil if you grind which is pretty cool.

I like that idea.