Team Contest VI - Tag Team - Page 4

**Slime Slayer** · 09-25-2010, 12:10 AM

Will decide later.

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That was an edit.

**Kong** · 09-25-2010, 06:03 PM

Question - if a losing pair tie - as in a team submits two zeros - what should happen? Does the team pick who they bench?

**Wolf** · 09-25-2010, 06:09 PM

the team should pick since there is no player with a greater score

**Slime Slayer** · 09-25-2010, 06:49 PM

I'd say let the team decide who they want to send home, if they are both inactive it shouldn't matter anyway.

**Winnebagel** · 09-25-2010, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Kong

Question - if a losing pair tie - as in a team submits two zeros - what should happen? Does the team pick who they bench?

If a team submits two zeros it is probably something done on purpose. I could understand one, but two seems a bit excessive. Why should a team that does this kind of thing be rewarded? I would think the other teams should choose who they lose to prevent these types of shenanigans.

**Slime Slayer** · 09-25-2010, 07:04 PM

Copy and pasted from page one:

If a solo player survives a round or gets first place then they can call in a benched player.

There seems to be a little confusion, wolfman a nd davidman are listed as "eliminated" is this different that "benched"?
Also, does submitting 1 score from a team of 2 count as solo? Like if one of the pair doesn't submit a score?

**Wolf** · 09-25-2010, 07:06 PM

so would I be in it if a solo player on my team wins or no?

**Slime Slayer** · 09-25-2010, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Winnebagel

If a team submits two zeros it is probably something done on purpose. I could understand one, but two seems a bit excessive. Why should a team that does this kind of thing be rewarded? I would think the other teams should choose who they lose to prevent these types of shenanigans.

I wouldnt excatly call it "rewarded", they have two players that are not active, I don't see the harm in letting them selecting what one to bench, and what one stays, based on who they think is more likely to become active before the end of the contest.

Although last night in chat Ten suggested that they might both get benched.

**Winnebagel** · 09-25-2010, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by stevencassidy13

I wouldnt excatly call it "rewarded", they have two players that are not active, I don't see the harm in letting them selecting what one to bench, and what one stays, based on who they think is more likely to become active before the end of the contest.

Although last night in chat Ten suggested that they might both get benched.

I think I know what you are saying, but it does seem to be a forced loss in a round if there are two zeros. I think this kind of thing should not be encouraged is all I'm saying.

If someone manages to win a round all by them-self that is a big accomplishment and so someone combining with them in that case is a reward.

Losing on purpose is a different case I think. It would just seem to be unfair (to the player being dropped) and not really sportsmanlike in my opinion.

If someone loses a round on purpose just to drop a player and then re align with someone different (which is the only reason I can think of why someone would do this) it would just seem underhanded somehow. I can understand if someone is busy and can't submit a score, but both just seems like it is a tactic.

**Slime Slayer** · 09-25-2010, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Winnebagel

If someone loses a round on purpose just to drop a player and then re align with someone different (which is the only reason I can think of why someone would do this) it would just seem underhanded somehow.

I just see it as strategy, its not right to do it with 2 active players, but my partner is mia.

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I'm not saying I'm going to do it btw, it was just an example.

**Kugyince** · 09-25-2010, 07:33 PM

Benched and Eliminated players are different.

Your benched player can join a solo player team at any time.

An eliminated player requires a solo player to win to be called back.

Example: Davidman was eliminated on team EC leaving TMT a solo team. EC can merge their bench (Oasis) with TMT to create a team if they wish or leave TMT as a solo team.

**Slime Slayer** · 09-25-2010, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Tenser

An eliminated player requires a solo player to win to be called back.

If I won POW and my partner didnt submit a score, would that count as solo?

**Kugyince** · 09-25-2010, 07:37 PM

No.

Though we could take a team captain vote on it.

**Kugyince** · 09-25-2010, 07:39 PM

Reminder:

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Originally Posted by Tenser

The new game is: Retro Uprising - Arcade - P.O.W. - Prisoners of War (US)

Team captains, please post your pairing or any objections you might have by 11:41pm EST. The first roll to close this game will happen no earlier than Saturday,11:42pm EST.

I will update the first post.

**Kugyince** · 09-25-2010, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kong

Scores will only count if submitted by the pair that the team captain posts and after the captain posts the pair and before the round is over.

Emphasis mine

**Kong** · 09-25-2010, 08:00 PM

Jable & Brawl will be playing for MegaMen. I am posting for Joz.

Did we come to an agreement on changing the dice rule? My captain roll idea was vetoed right?

@Double zeros. If your partner is MIA and you submit any score and they submit a zero and you get last place then you are kicked off while your partner gets to stay.

That seems harsh, but that is how I intended the rules to be. The question being asked is if you know that is going to happen then can you submit a zero on purpose to avoid it.

I originally intended to say in case of tie both are benched. I forgot to put that in the rules, so I am asking for everyone opinion since it needs to be covered.

It might be better for the contest if we design it so we kick the dead weight off right away instead of rewarding the no shows. But I don't think that is in line with the original intent of the rules. So I am undecided.

@Eliminated, I had it in mind that players were benched each round and there was no difference in benched and eliminated and that for a benched player to be called in they would have to have a solo player survive a round. Dose everyone prefer what Tenser thought was the rule or what I thought?

**Slime Slayer** · 09-25-2010, 08:11 PM

I think that members that are eliminated should be able to be brought back.

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Dojah and Silverminer going in for VB.

**Kong** · 09-25-2010, 08:20 PM

The only difference in what Tenser and I are saying is he thought the first person you benched could be brought in as soon as you had a solo player to match up with him. I thought he would be treated the same as everyone else and could not come in until a solo player survived a round.

**Kugyince** · 09-25-2010, 08:30 PM

All of Jable and Brawl's scores submitted after 9pm will be accepted.
All of Dojah and Silver's scores submitted after 9:11pm will be accepted.
I'll update the first post.

**Winnebagel** · 09-25-2010, 08:36 PM

Gamenguru and Winnebagel will play for EC this round.

It is 9:36 pm EST.

**CatalystiCam** · 09-25-2010, 08:44 PM

what about being solo? Wouldn't you HAVE to get second or better? getting third or fourth would bean elimination anyways, right?

**Tails** · 09-25-2010, 08:48 PM

Yes Cam, you have to score an obvious first with a major lead to stand a chance.

**Dudebro** · 09-25-2010, 09:27 PM

I'm a little confused but I am not in favor of bringing back eliminated players so easily. This already seems like it could be a long contest and allowing the eliminated people to come back seems like it would just compound that to an annoying degree.

**Wolf** · 09-25-2010, 09:39 PM

would you still say that if you were elimated dudebro

**Winnebagel** · 09-25-2010, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Dudebro

I'm a little confused but I am not in favor of bringing back eliminated players so easily. This already seems like it could be a long contest and allowing the eliminated people to come back seems like it would just compound that to an annoying degree.

I'm in the same boat. If you could do the solo thing and beat everyone else on your own and could then resurrect your team mate that would be cool. It wouldn't be cool to lose on purpose so you could bring in someone else.