Read This - High Score Cheating Rule Updates and Changes - Page 3

**StarfoxFan2009** · 04-12-2011, 06:43 PM

ok it's game on then.

**Incubator** · 04-27-2011, 01:02 PM

in games like river city ransom, where you can farm to buy upgrades, is it allowed to do so? I think that would make it more enjoyable, because that way you can explore the whole game, and not just something similar to a speedrun...
Also, if the game allows you to die infinite times, and every time takes something from you, for example halves the money. Is it allowed to die only 5 times?

**joz** · 04-27-2011, 02:08 PM

@incubator: You can farm on games that don't keep score since you won't be submitting it for a high score anyways. If it does keep a score, you can farm if you're going to submit for mastery ONLY. So if there is a score showing when you've beaten the final boss, you'd do best to wait for the credits or anything after the final boss to submit a screen shot.

**Incubator** · 04-27-2011, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by jozman3000

@incubator: You can farm on games that don't keep score since you won't be submitting it for a high score anyways. If it does keep a score, you can farm if you're going to submit for mastery ONLY. So if there is a score showing when you've beaten the final boss, you'd do best to wait for the credits or anything after the final boss to submit a screen shot.

Wow, that's great to know, what about my other question?
The same applies?

**Dudebro** · 04-27-2011, 02:55 PM

Good question. I think it should be ok if the game penalizes you for each continue. I know Dragon Crystal does that, takes away some of your money each time and money is score. I wouldn't continue more than five times and lose all that score but if someone wants to struggle like that it shouldn't be seen as cheating, IMO.

**Kong** · 04-27-2011, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Incubator

in games like river city ransom, where you can farm to buy upgrades, is it allowed to do so? I think that would make it more enjoyable, because that way you can explore the whole game, and not just something similar to a speedrun...

I think River City Ransom doesn't have a score so that is ok. But don't do that when submitting a score.

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Also, if the game allows you to die infinite times, and every time takes something from you, for example halves the money. Is it allowed to die only 5 times?

Dragon Crystal does that and it is ok. Do you have a specific example?

**Kugyince** · 04-27-2011, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Incubator

Also, if the game allows you to die infinite times, and every time takes something from you, for example halves the money. Is it allowed to die only 5 times?

The staff is going to discuss this. We'll try and have an official answer for you by tomorrow. Thanks for your patience.

**Incubator** · 04-28-2011, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Kong

Dragon Crystal does that and it is ok. Do you have a specific example?

i meant River City Ransom but not for score mode, so i guess it's ok then

**Kugyince** · 04-28-2011, 08:22 AM

You can do anything you want in full mode.

**joz** · 04-28-2011, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Incubator

Wow, that's great to know, what about my other question?
The same applies?

If you're playing in FULL mode, the Rules do not apply. If you're playing in SCORE mode and the game allows for infinite lives/continues, then the limit is at 5 no matter what.

**Incubator** · 04-30-2011, 06:48 AM

and what about long games without sram save, only password?
for ex Mission Impossible and Kunio Kun no Nekketsu Soccer League and some other nes games

**joz** · 04-30-2011, 07:49 AM

NO PASSWORDS allowed in Score Mode at all. Mission Impossible has been mastered here already so it's not impossible.

**Tails** · 04-30-2011, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jozman3000

NO PASSWORDS allowed in Score Mode at all. Mission Impossible has been mastered here already so it's not impossible.

Welcome to Instant Rimshot

**Incubator** · 04-30-2011, 08:20 AM

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Welcome to Instant Rimshot

lol

well, that's tough, but i will master it anyway

**StarfoxFan2009** · 05-04-2011, 12:05 AM

for mastering Tecmo, would i have to play the entire season or can we sim the season and play the playoffs? I mean it would make a long playthrough if the whole season had to be played

**joz** · 05-04-2011, 08:30 AM

@ SFF: Good question. We'll discuss is and then post our reply here. Give us 24 hours.

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Which Tecmo?

**StarfoxFan2009** · 05-04-2011, 04:52 PM

Tecmo Super Bowl on Genesis

**Kugyince** · 05-10-2011, 09:39 PM

The first post has been updated to now reflect that the High Score and Game Mastery rules are now found in the FAQ.

Retro Uprising - FAQ: Arcade

I'll leave this thread open and post any specific rules changes if they occur to notify the users.

**supernintendosp** · 05-16-2011, 05:45 PM

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Rule 2-8. Always play as player 1 only. Examples, In Double Dragon do not start a two player game and kill player 2 for extra points. There are a few exceptions, example Robot Gyro requires both game pads be used.

There are such games such as the hidden gem Nostradamus that have hard-wired characters with different styles.
Nostradamus' characters (you select them by hitting the respective player's start button):

Player 1: Male straight shooter with side bullets turning backwards
Player 2: Female ace whose shots home in on a center position, has no straight shots and cannot shoot backwards

If Nostradamus is an exception to Rule 2-8, may I play as Player 2?

**joz** · 05-18-2011, 01:24 PM

Sorry about the delay Supernintendosp, we've been busy around here working on the site. Give us 24 hours as of this post and I'll be back with a response.

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@ supernintendosp: You can go ahead and play as player two.

**Kong** · 05-18-2011, 05:49 PM

The reason for that rule is primarily to prevent cheating in games like Double Dragon and confusion in sports and board games.

Games like TMNT, X-Men, Simpsons and Nostradamus where each player is a different character are generally acceptable exceptions. Asking for clarification like you did though is a good move.

**supernintendosp** · 05-20-2011, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Kong

The reason for that rule is primarily to prevent cheating in games like Double Dragon and confusion in sports and board games.

Games like TMNT, X-Men, Simpsons and Nostradamus where each player is a different character are generally acceptable exceptions. Asking for clarification like you did though is a good move.

Thank you--I thought this would be the case. I really like that game with its catchy music and gameplay and thought before now, "Gee, Player 2 could really pack a punch. But I don't know if this would be breaking the rules." Therefore, I asked. Apparently it's a great exception.

**joz** · 05-20-2011, 06:22 PM

Good luck with beating Winnebagel's score on that one. I got close once.

**alohaex** · 05-25-2011, 06:46 PM

A question how is Score or Mastery judged for games that have more then one game in it. For example Super Mario Superstars and Kirby Superstars and I'm sure there is many more.

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Sorry meant Super Mario All Stars not Superstars my bad

**Kong** · 05-25-2011, 07:30 PM

You can beat either game on the cart and receive full credit.