Michael Jackson rushed to hospital - Page 2

**sezthemank** · 06-26-2009, 07:32 PM

Yeah true.
But lets hope that he isnt rememberd for that.
Lets hope hes remembered for his fantastic music.

**jim5cents** · 06-26-2009, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by justin

ok sez, he may not have been found guilty but that doesn't mean anything in the united states, if you have enough money here you can buy your way out of murder. whether he did what he was accused of doing or not, no one will ever know. but he will be missed all the same.

case in point

**justinm26** · 06-26-2009, 08:06 PM

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case in point

lol, exactly my point
he didn't get out of the last one cause he was broke

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sez, let me see if i understand you correctly, it's ok to screw with little kids as long as before you do it you make a bunch of hit songs first. i know you can't possibly think that way.

**Winnebagel** · 06-26-2009, 08:41 PM

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lol, exactly my point
he didn't get out of the last one cause he was broke

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sez, let me see if i understand you correctly, it's ok to screw with little kids as long as before you do it you make a bunch of hit songs first. i know you can't possibly think that way.

Yeah, but also don't forget, here in the states the media will try to portray any celebrity as guilty whether they are or not because it's a better story and more money for them. I followed the second MJ trial really closely and the accusers were really really suspect to me.

I'm not saying he never did this to any children (maybe maybe not), but I don't think he did to this particular kid.

**justinm26** · 06-26-2009, 09:15 PM

well like i said, now no one will ever know

**Winnebagel** · 06-26-2009, 09:39 PM

Very true.

**Dudebro** · 06-26-2009, 11:20 PM

I'm with justin on this one, he may have been found not guilty but that doesn't mean innocent. It just means they didn't have enough proof to convict.
We all know he had a strange obsession with children. He also had a weird obsession with Peter Pan and never growing up(neverland ranch, amusement park and zoo on his land). Did any of you see that documentary where they really showed how crazy he was? The man had an oil painting of himself as peter pan with nude cherubs(baby angels) all around him.

I'm not usually one to speak ill of the dead but people need to face the facts. MJ was a disturbed person and he needed mental help. Sure he was great in the 80s but after that he lost his damn mind and became the most insane people on earth.

It's also worth noting that the negative documentary isn't available on youtube but the other version that shows him in a good light is. Hurray for censorship.

**jim5cents** · 06-27-2009, 12:23 AM

my thoughts on this matter, spoken to sez on the thread for moonwalker.

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@ sez. i think michael jackson was one of the most talented musical artists of all time and in the past 50 years, probably in the top 3. in that sense, i have great respect for his musical achievements.

now, i'm not going to pretend to understand what he could have been thinking with his surgeries, affection for children, wearing the masks and so on, because i have no clue. i know that it definately struck me as odd and that as well as the molestation business definately led from him being famous to infamous.

i will also say the events surrounding his death and the media coverage of it is an example of one of the few things i do dislike about my country...the sensationalization of news that is not sensational.

i just didn't want to retype that.

**Dudebro** · 06-27-2009, 12:33 AM

I really hate all the people acting like MJ was a saint. I was looking through Youtube and people were literally calling him divine and an earth born angel. Give me a break, if he's divine then the rest of us must be going to hell.

**sezthemank** · 06-27-2009, 05:49 AM

All Im saying is that there is a chance he didnt do it!
Especally the 2nd case!

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Originally Posted by justinm26

sez, let me see if i understand you correctly, it's ok to screw with little kids as long as before you do it you make a bunch of hit songs first. i know you can't possibly think that way.

No!
Im just saying that I hope he is remembered for his songs insted of rape charges.

Tupac got put in jail for a sexual offence not long before he died, he actully got found guilty, and noone really goes on about that, the subject rarely comes up.
But he is not remembered for that, he is remembered for amazing lyrics.

I hope the same for Jacko, Exept Jacko was a bigger artist than tupac.
MJ was a bigger star than most - record sales confirm that.

All I am trying to say is let the man R.I.P
its not like he could when he was on this earth.

**jim5cents** · 06-27-2009, 12:28 PM

actually, i would contend that tupac is remembered for getting shot/feud with biggie, and not his music.

**justinm26** · 06-27-2009, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sezthemank

All Im saying is that there is a chance he didnt do it!
Especally the 2nd case!

No!
Im just saying that I hope he is remembered for his songs insted of rape charges.

Tupac got put in jail for a sexual offence not long before he died, he actully got found guilty, and noone really goes on about that, the subject rarely comes up.
But he is not remembered for that, he is remembered for amazing lyrics.

I hope the same for Jacko, Exept Jacko was a bigger artist than tupac.
MJ was a bigger star than most - record sales confirm that.

All I am trying to say is let the man R.I.P
its not like he could when he was on this earth.

ok ok ok ok , my last comment on this is i'm not a celebrity worshiper and i think the world being obsessed with them is just sad. not sure how it ties in to our whole debate but had to get it off my chest(or fingers or whatever)

**LoneWolf** · 06-27-2009, 12:45 PM

I heard that the internet crashed for 45 minutes when people started annoucing he died.

Michael Jackson made some amazing music, too.

**sezthemank** · 06-27-2009, 03:00 PM

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I heard that the internet crashed for 45 minutes when people started annoucing he died.

Michael Jackson made some amazing music, too.

Yeah several websites collapsed

@Jim - true but he wont really be remembered for the sex offence though.

It must be mad in the US, It is true how you can get off with anything if you have the doe.
Over here, there aint no way of getting off like that, then again we get a lot less years than you guys do.

@ Justin - Im not obbsessed with Jacko, Im just very saddened by his death.

**Squall** · 06-27-2009, 04:35 PM

Moonwalker was on tv here earlier, as a tribute to the man. it was my first time seeing the film, and it was cool. some of it was unusual to say the least, but i suppose not all of him is to be praised. as my tribute to the man i want to learn and perform thriller live with the band im starting - ill be dancing and doing the "rap" part of it!

**sezthemank** · 06-27-2009, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Squall

Moonwalker was on tv here earlier, as a tribute to the man. it was my first time seeing the film, and it was cool. some of it was unusual to say the least, but i suppose not all of him is to be praised. as my tribute to the man i want to learn and perform thriller live with the band im starting - ill be dancing and doing the "rap" part of it!

Aww I missed it!
What channel was it on squall.?

**Dudebro** · 06-27-2009, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by sezthemank

Yeah several websites collapsed

@Jim - true but he wont really be remembered for the sex offence though.

It must be mad in the US, It is true how you can get off with anything if you have the doe.
Over here, there aint no way of getting off like that, then again we get a lot less years than you guys do.

@ Justin - Im not obbsessed with Jacko, Im just very saddened by his death.

Don't kid yourself, MJ will be remembered for this as much as his music.

**sezthemank** · 06-28-2009, 06:26 AM

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Don't kid yourself, MJ will be remembered for this as much as his music.

If you read what Jim said you will see Im talking about Tupac, he wont be remembered as much for the sex offence.
I know Jacko will defenetly be remembered for his wackyness and molestation charges as much as his music.

**laserboy1134** · 06-28-2009, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sezthemank

If you read what Jim said you will see Im talking about Tupac, he wont be remembered as much for the sex offence.
I know Jacko will defenetly be remembered for his wackyness and molestation charges as much as his music.

That's because 2pac was completely innocent, and MJ is still debatable.

**Kevin** · 06-28-2009, 04:50 PM

MJ will be remembered for WAY longer then 2pac will, IMHO.

**Squall** · 06-28-2009, 05:36 PM

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Aww I missed it!
What channel was it on squall.?

it was on five, but bear in mind that they might not have shown it in manch. yet

**Dudebro** · 06-28-2009, 07:54 PM

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MJ will be remembered for WAY longer then 2pac will, IMHO.

I agree but I think both will be remembered for thier music. Tupac isn't as famous as MJ but among rap fans he's still a huge star who died far too young. Imo Tupac was more tragic, MJ was on a downward spiral anyways.

**sezthemank** · 06-29-2009, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by laserboy1134

That's because 2pac was completely innocent, and MJ is still debatable.

Jacko got found not guilty, Pac got found guilty

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Originally Posted by Squall

it was on five, but bear in mind that they might not have shown it in manch. yet

Ill have to keep my eye out for it.

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MJ will be remembered for WAY longer then 2pac will, IMHO.

Of corse he will, but pac will always be the "Elvis" of rap.

(I just LMAO over what I just wrote.)

**Kevin** · 06-29-2009, 10:18 AM

I enjoyed watching movies staring Tupac. More so then I enjoying listening to his music. All Eyes On Me will always be one of my favorite albums though.

**sezthemank** · 06-29-2009, 03:58 PM

yeah thats a brilliant album, I have every Tupac album.