The Party Thread

[somedude21]

"Darn butt"? I dont wanna know.

[sabby]

Originally Posted by Tails

sabby, what about the curse words for darn butt and crap? im sure ive heard them in a PG movie (heck i heard it in TMNT 1 movie tonight on national TV) are they allowed now?

Would those highlighted words get the same point across? In my opinion, yes. But if you feel the need to use them...

[Tails]

Originally Posted by sabby

Would those highlighted words get the same point across? In my opinion, yes. But if you feel the need to use them...

they just slip so my posts really had to be watched.

[TrakMastaTom]

I don't think you can say "the S word" (that's such a silly term, but whatever) in a PG movie.

[Tails]

Well PG-13 i know for sure.

[mj23]

Originally Posted by Tails

Well PG-13 i know for sure.

well in pg-13 only illegal word begins with f and ends in uck and no not firetruck

[Tails]

Originally Posted by mj23

well in pg-13 only illegal word begins with f and ends in uck and no not firetruck

Funny.

i doubt i will say curses on here much but atleast if i slip i wont get an edited by moderator in my post :P

[Kugyince]

I asked Kong about words like ass not too long ago. It's even in my forum profile information to the left of all of my posts.

The consensus was as long as we:

1) Stay away from Carlin's seven words.
2) Do not use them to describe another member.
3) Do not use them in an overly graphic or sexual manner.


It's also my opinion that light-hearted drug use is PG-13 as it is listed on the site Sabby linked to. Since we're aiming for "nothing over PG-13" I personally do not have a problem with it. I would also point out songs that at one time had regular radio play like "'Cause I Got High" and "Smoke Two Joints".

Our current forum rules are intentionally vague. Expecting members to use common sense and their best judgement. Which also allows the mods to rule within the context of the offense. But each poster and moderator will undoubtedly have a different view of what is acceptable and what is offensive. It's a difficult mist to navigate. Would you, the members, prefer more hard and fast rules?

One last thing. Normally I wouldn't air my opinions about these matters publicly. I'd try to consult privately with Kong and the other Mods in the Mod forums. And this I've attempted to do. But I would really appreciate the members opinions on this as well.

[Dudebro]

Would you, the members, prefer more hard and fast rules?

I'd say this site is good about enforcement when things cross the line. Drugs is a grey area in this because like others have pointed out it's such a common subject in our culture. Of course we wouldn't wanna be seen as promoting any illegal drugs on the site, that wouldn't fly well with parents. Most parents wouldn't be mad about light hearted drug jokes I bet, but Birds pic was alittle out of control(no offense I still thought it was funny as hell, also I forget if it was even you who posted it )

I thought Kong said somewhere that the point of the PG-13 rule was to stay off of those "unsafe websites" lists, w/e they call those tools for parents to censor their kids. I think anything that might lower the sites traffic should be against the rules. I think we can control ourselves and save it for the private/hidden forums. Kong can always just make me a mod and I'll help edit the forum for content!

But yeah, we could use some clear rules that cover most everything, but that's hard to do. New things always come up or new people push the point ect. It's Kongs site so gets to decide anyways, if he wants our input I'm sure we'd all love to help.

About Carlins 7 words
I'm too lazy to watch the whole thing atm but wasn't Fart, Turd and Piss on that list? We can say those I'm guessing right? The others I can understand.

[TrakMastaTom]

I like the current rules. I like the community. I try to be respectful, and it doesn't upset me when I get censored even if I think it's a silly thing to censor or whatever.

I have no issues with anything. I love everyone.

;D

[Kong]

I will answer a few questions of these questions

1. Google can not see the hidden areas.
2. The rules in the hidden areas are slightly less strict.
3. The teams can decide on the rules they want for their team forum but you should not alienate any current or future team mates.
4. Very light drug talk, cracks/emulator/warez, sexual (no stronger insinuations than a bikini) and bad language (nothing stronger than "ass" and "damn") are OK. But I can see this getting out of hand and if it does then the rules will become much more strict. This is not the place for in depth discussion about any of these topics. If you need talk about them then check google for places that are a better fit for you.

In other words just because you can get away with it does not mean you should. There are always better ways of expressing yourself.

Abbreviations such as WTF, ****, f*ck etc are not acceptable. If the full word is against the rules then so is all forms of the words. I personally find it very insulting to assume that adding a * or half a beep to a word will trick someone into thinking "sh*t" might mean "shot".

5. Anything hateful, example racism, is probably an automatic ban.
6. Pointless and/or immature posts will eventually lead to a ban.
7. Shorthand such as "u no wat i mean" are not accepted. If you do not improve after a warning then you will be banned. IMO this is way worse than the cussing and your parents should be way more concerned about this rule than any of the others.
8. Tenser is correct the rules are vague and we are relying on you to use common sense. Immature people do things just because they can. Immature people are annoying. Annoying people are eventually banned.

I would like to hear the answer to Tenser's question. Do you want explicit rules? Example "You can do this" "You can not do that". DO you want less or more strict rules? If you do not want to answer publicly you can PM me. I will start an official poll and thread for this topic next week.

The rule is keep it PG-13. When I made that rule I did not know exactly what that meant. As time goes by I am realizing that no one really knows what that means.

Fart and turd were not on Carlin's original list. He added them to an updated version of the skit several years later. Piss was on the original. And the point of the skit was words that under no circumstances could be said on TV. Example ass is another name for jackass and Dick is a nickname for Richard or a detective and so could be said given the proper context. So even though both might be worse than fart and piss they were not added.

[Tails]

1. I for one just use the curses since i am used to them (i.e. when a game i get close to the score i do go 'damn damn damn') but the main ones i have stated that i use frequently.


For the rules i personally think its fine as you said if it gets out of hand raise it up but i think curses should be allowed if they are not directed twords people, but the ones on carlins list are not period. (is crap's bad word on his list? i forget.)

[Timber Wolf]

yes, a stronger verion of "crap" is on the list, i would recite them here, but i dont want to get banned so.....

[somedude21]

Originally Posted by TrakMastaTom

I like the current rules. I like the community. I try to be respectful, and it doesn't upset me when I get censored even if I think it's a silly thing to censor or whatever.

I have no issues with anything. I love everyone.

;D

Ewww.

And can we get back to the party? (as if their was one...)

[Kugyince]

Lets party!

( Click to show/hide )

Oh, not this kind of party?

[somedude21]

I doubt we can if it took us 3 PAGES to get this far.

[Kong]

There has been some confusion on this.
1. The stronger version of crap is not allowed.
2. When I said light bad language usage, drug talk and warez talk would be tolerated. I meant try not to do it but if you make an occasional slip up then it will be over looked. Do not do it all the time and do not ever go very far into these realms.

If you want to discuss changing these rules go ahead. But do not break the rules.

[oasis]

so does anyone want me to post up my cake picture again to get this party started ;D

[Timber Wolf]

...you know oasis, i used to like cake, you've ruined cake for me, i didnt think that was possible

[Tails]

Originally Posted by Kong

There has been some confusion on this.
1. The stronger version of crap is not allowed.
2. When I said light bad language usage, drug talk and warez talk would be tolerated. I meant try not to do it but if you make an occasional slip up then it will be over looked. Do not do it all the time and do not ever go very far into these realms.

If you want to discuss changing these rules go ahead. But do not break the rules.

1. aww no biggie though
2. so like if we say 'damn, damn, damn, i almost got the high score in sonic blox.' thats allowed?

the number one i really don't understand but i don't mind either, just a suggestion (since damn, crap, and ass are the only 3 i say)

[TrakMastaTom]

Originally Posted by somedude21

Ewww.

Yeah...way to be.

[somedude21]

Im glad you agree (i think)

[TrakMastaTom]

Just stop.

[somedude21]

Why would we stop the not-started party?

[Timber Wolf]

dude, at first it's kinda funny, but, it gets old quick, i though i could get annoying, butafter people start getting mad, and seem a bit... i dont know... "hostile", you might get the point to stop, Kong has even said something publicly about it... i don't think i've ever see an Admin do that, it's not funny anymore, im fairly tolorant of this kinda stuff, and even im getting annoyed