E3 2010 - Microsoft

**Seahawk** · 06-14-2010, 02:53 AM

This is a thread where you can discuss all things about Microsoft for this years E3.

Their press conference is June 14, 10:00 a.m. PST.

**Tails** · 06-14-2010, 04:20 AM

I predict a bad E3.

**Seahawk** · 06-14-2010, 04:26 AM

Apparently it hasn't started off very well for Microsoft.

"To say I was disappointed with Kinect would be putting it mildly. After waiting at the Galen Center for a couple of hours, other than the name, Kinect, nothing was revealed except a handful of pre-recorded demos where actors clearly pretended to control the on-screen characters (avatars) with their own body movement. At several points the avatars would move before the actors did, ruining the illusion of a real live demo of Kinect. This body-synch debacle makes Milli Vanilli's legendary lip-synch outrage look tame by comparison. "

"Truly, tonight will live on in our minds right up there with Giant Enemy Crab and Wii Music air-drumming."

E3 2010: IGN Australia Daily Show Report - Games News at IGN

I remember how bad the Wii drumming was 2 years ago -_-;.

**TrakMastaTom** · 06-14-2010, 09:00 AM

Yeah, but who cares about that dumb motion thing anyway?

**Seahawk** · 06-14-2010, 12:54 PM

Watching the conference now because I dont' have anything better to do. Just finished Gears of War 3 demo, Peter Molyneux is showing off Fable 3 now.

**Slime Slayer** · 06-14-2010, 01:14 PM

Wow, poor Microsoft, I have yet to see a demo that wasn't beyond retarded with natal/kinect.

**Seahawk** · 06-14-2010, 01:26 PM

Kinectimals. Seriously? Nice petting zoo. Might as well have made Nintentigers......

11:27am
Looks like they ported Wii Sports to Xbox....

11:37am
Kinectimals
Kinect Joy Ride
Kinect Adventures
Yourshape by Ubiosft

I'm not too impressed so far.

**Mareeps** · 06-14-2010, 01:54 PM

Gimmicks galore this year, I'm guessing?

**Seahawk** · 06-14-2010, 02:09 PM

The conference is over. All of my quick notes are below.

(I missed around 30 minutes of the conference)

Partnership with Crytek - Codename Kingdoms

34 million games, 2 billion hours online of Halo games
Halo Reach - September

Pitching Xbox live for a bit

Kinect Intro
Sign in recogizing by camera alone
Controller free menu, use Kinect to select menu, voice commands
Zune hype
Bringing Xbox live to Windows Phone
Video Kinect - video conferencing, connection to windows live network
(Why do people keep announcing video conferencing like it's new?)

ESPN Sports broadcasts over Xbox Live
(The Sports Center hosts came on stage, they were way more natural than the game presenters
Replay support, statistics, interactive trivia without leaving game.
Free for Gold Members

Kinect demos
Kinectimals (Nintentigers!)
Kinect Sports (LOL)
Kinect Joy Ride
(No control of gas pedal/brake?)
Kinect Adventures - Takes pictures, allows sharing to Facebook or whatever

Ubisoft - Yourshape
(I noticed all demos had a half second delay between movement and game response.)

Dance Central - Harmonix with partnership with MTV
(This was the first thing I thought was cool. This is a huge step forward from DDR.)

Kinect release, November 4 in US, 15 launch titles

LucasArts - Star Wars trailer
(Comment from person at the conference: "This footage is not coming out of a 360. You probably can't see on a stream but the models are way too smooth.")

Forza, face tracking, head turning inside car to look out corners and see mirrors, virtual car examination including going inside the car.

Xbox360 slim announced, 250GB, built in wifi, 299$, shipping NOW. Available later this week. They gave away free Xbox360 slims to everyone in audience 0_o;;.

No price on Kinnex.

Conference end.

I will get pics up soon.

**Tails** · 06-14-2010, 02:14 PM

Wow, Microsoft failed, but what's new?

**Seahawk** · 06-14-2010, 02:18 PM

Here are those pics. Sorry there aren't more but I starting forgetting to capture them as the conference dragged on.

Kinect Tech

Kinect Sports

Kinect Sports logo

Yourshape - Ubisoft

Kinect Adventures

Dance Central by Harmonix

Xbox 360 vs Slim

**Slime Slayer** · 06-14-2010, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawk

Dance Central - Harmonix with partnership with MTV
(This was the first thing I thought was cool. This is a huge step forward from DDR.)

That was fake. Pre-recorded. Natal doesn't go from twitching, un-responsive games where your goal is to "move around as much as you can" to something that precise. With not a single glitch. Notice how at the end of the demo, the screen exploded into light?

**Tails** · 06-14-2010, 02:21 PM

It was only a matter of time IMO.

**Slime Slayer** · 06-14-2010, 02:22 PM

Oh yeah, the aerobics one was real, where the goal was to move like molasses, and it wasn't even as responsive as the dance one.

**Seahawk** · 06-14-2010, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevencassidy13

That was fake. Pre-recorded. Natal doesn't go from twitching, un-responsive games where your goal is to "move around as much as you can" to something that precise. With not a single glitch. Notice how at the end of the demo, the screen exploded into light?

You're probably right, but it looked cool at least. I was busy taking notes and pictures. Sorry ^^;.

**Slime Slayer** · 06-14-2010, 06:39 PM

Better pic of the new 360, as much as I hate to admit it, it sure is sexy:

**Tails** · 06-14-2010, 06:48 PM

If it had games I'd like I would get one.

**Slime Slayer** · 06-14-2010, 07:35 PM

DB in 3....2....1....

**Tails** · 06-14-2010, 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevencassidy13

DB in 3....2....1....

lmao I know right?

**Dudebro** · 06-14-2010, 08:23 PM

Yeah we get it Tails, you don't like Xbox. Why don't you go post in a topic you actually like and quit trolling? It's not funny and it's certainly not lmao funny.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TMT

Yeah, but who cares about that dumb motion thing anyway?

Exactly. I notice Seahawk is the only one to even mention anything but the motion crap. I know everyone loves to crack on Microsoft but you're forgetting something important, no one cares about it. Maybe some people out there do but no here and none of my friends do. It's a gimmick like the Wii controls and it's not a big deal to anyone but the extremely casual gamer, like most Wii fans.

**Seahawk** · 06-14-2010, 08:24 PM

The slim version certainly looks sleek.

So I mulled over Microsoft's E3 show. I missed around 30 minutes or so I could have missed something big, but I doubt it. When I started they were doing a demo for Gears of War 3, followed by a trailer of Fable 3, and then Halo Reach. After that there were no more games that didn't use Kinect.

Microsoft seems to be more focused on making the Xbox360 more of a media center. In this regard they are having a huge success, they are slowly but surely bringing many services that used to be separate into a single location. It has Netflix streaming, connectivity with a music player, and now live interactive sports broadcast and video conferencing. In my opinion it is now starting to rival a cable box in terms of content and. I don't have a cable box, and I can definitely see myself not needing one if I ever got a 360. Remember that all of these services are included if you get a gold account on Xbox Live.

In the games world, I was definitely not impressed. On the games side their show felt pretty unsatisfactory. The Kinect device is very questionable at this point:

1) There was a half second delay between player movement and game response. And the games shown were certainly not fast paced.
2) These games so far are simply Wii knockoffs that Nintendo was criticized for a few years ago.
3) Still no price info or game support aside from these demos.

Combined with yesterday's faked Kinect demos, this conference certainly reminds me of Nintendo's Wii Music air drumming lame fest in 2008.

**Dudebro** · 06-14-2010, 08:29 PM

These motion controls are just an attempt to get fans from Wii. Same with retarded cutesy looking avatars and other features. Blame all those casual Wii fans for changing the market, not Microsoft. Not directed at you Seahawk, just saying.

**Slime Slayer** · 06-14-2010, 08:48 PM

Ubisoft is definitely putting alot of eggs into the kinetic basket, three quarters of their demo was kinetic games. Then they had a this dance performance with "Micheal Jackson" written on the big screen, no mention what so ever if it was even video game related.

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Oh yeah and the one demo that was actually working was one where it actually puts your silhoutte up on the screen, don't be fooled into thinking this is kinetic functioning properly, its just projecting the image it see's, not controlling a character.

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Also I'm only talking about Kinetic cause I so dearly want to be right about my prediction of it. None of the games shown today interest me. It was all your standard fps, racing games and then the new Raving Rabbits.

**Dudebro** · 06-14-2010, 08:49 PM

Honestly I hope it fails so they'll devote more time to things that matter.

**Kugyince** · 06-14-2010, 09:09 PM

I hope it fails so their corporate CEOs decide to pull out of the game market and stick with Windows.