Super Smash Bros. Brawl Tier List #2

**samejamesbond** · 01-06-2009, 03:32 PM

Well, they released their second Tier List yesterday so I'm posting the new and old one.

Old Tier List:
Top Tier:

1: Meta Knight
2: Solid Snake
3: King Dedede
4: Mr. Game and Watch
5: Falco
6: R.O.B.

High Tier:

7: Marth
8: Wario
9: Lucario
10: Donkey Kong
11: Diddy Kong
12: Pikachu
13: Ice Climbers
14: Kirby
15: Pit
16: Wolf

Middle Tier:

17: Toon Link
18: Olimar
19: Fox
20: Zelda
21: Zero Suit Samus
22: Bowser
23: Luigi
24: Peach
25: Ike
26: Sheik

Low Tier:

27: Lucas
28: Ness
29: Mario
30: Pokemon Trainer
31: Samus
32: Yoshi
33: Sonic
34: Jigglypuff
35: Ganondorf
36: Link
37: Captain Falcon

New Tier List:

SS Tier:
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S Tier:
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A Tier:
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5:

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6: Marth
7: Diddy Kong

B Tier:
8: Wario
9: R.O.B.
10: Lucario
11: Olimar

C Tier:
12: Pikachu
13: Kirby
14: Donkey Kong
15: Ice Climbers

D Tier:
16: Zero Suit Samus
17: Toon Link
18: Pit
19: Peach
20: Wolf

E Tier:
21: Luigi
22: Zelda
23: Bowser
24: Fox
25: Sheik
26: Ike

F Tier:
27: Mario
28: Lucas
29: Ness
30: Samus
31: Sonic
32: Pokemon Trainer
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G Tier:
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I Put spoilers for those of us who just skip ahead just to see the best and worst.

My Brother was pritty ticked when he heard Wolf was now lower than Peach... his face was priceless! ;D

**TNTisKING** · 01-06-2009, 03:44 PM

How dare they put Yoshi so low on the list!

Where did these come from? They really think Meta Knight is the best character?

**Squall** · 01-06-2009, 04:36 PM

he may not be the best, but he sure as hell comes close!

why is link so far down the list?!?

**Dudebro** · 01-07-2009, 04:53 AM

Yeah any list with Link at the bottom is a failure.

**Squall** · 01-07-2009, 06:16 AM

NEVER use falcon against Ike or Marth - its to easy to counter his moves.

i was playing someone online, got to sudden death, me ike this guy falcon, all i heard was 'FALCON -' instant down-B for me and he was dead!

**Metricus** · 01-07-2009, 12:09 PM

Why on Zebes are Ganondorf and Cpt. Falcon at the Bottom. And why isn't Pikachu at the top.

**Squall** · 01-07-2009, 02:26 PM

pikachu is good, but why are all of ganondorfs moves the exact same as falcons?!?

**samejamesbond** · 01-07-2009, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Squall

NEVER use falcon against Ike or Marth - its to easy to counter his moves.

i was playing someone online, got to sudden death, me ike this guy falcon, all i heard was 'FALCON -' instant down-B for me and he was dead!

I know, Captain Falcon was made too predictable, but I still think above all, Ganondorf should be in last not the Captain.

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why are all of ganondorfs moves the exact same as falcons?!?

Lack of origional ideas?

**Metricus** · 01-07-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Squall

pikachu is good, but why are all of ganondorfs moves the exact same as falcons?!?

In Melee Ganondorf's move were the same as Falcon's, but now they've changed some of them to make him different as well as making them both slower, and pretty much ruining Ganondorf, but he still shouldn't be at the bottom. I Melee I could own everyone with Ganondorf because for what he lacked in speed he made up for in power. Now that he's slower it's to big of a disadvantage, and the changes they've made to his moves ruin my combos.

**samejamesbond** · 01-07-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Squall

pikachu is good, but why are all of ganondorfs moves the exact same as falcons?!?

In Melee Ganondorf's move were the same as Falcon's, but now they've changed some of them to make him different as well as making them both slower, and pretty much ruining Ganondorf, but he still shouldn't be at the bottom. I Melee I could own everyone with Ganondorf because for what he lacked in speed he made up for in power. Now that he's slower it's to big of a disadvantage, and the changes they've made to his moves ruin my combos.

I know, but I found a solution to that:

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It always works and helps out to pick counters like Wario on Sonic

**Metricus** · 01-07-2009, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Metricus

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Originally Posted by Squall

pikachu is good, but why are all of ganondorfs moves the exact same as falcons?!?

In Melee Ganondorf's move were the same as Falcon's, but now they've changed some of them to make him different as well as making them both slower, and pretty much ruining Ganondorf, but he still shouldn't be at the bottom. I Melee I could own everyone with Ganondorf because for what he lacked in speed he made up for in power. Now that he's slower it's to big of a disadvantage, and the changes they've made to his moves ruin my combos.

I know, but I found a solution to that:

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It always works and helps out to pick counters like Wario on Sonic

I've been working on that, and I can do pretty good with a lot of characters, but I my has that disk read problem that other people's Wiis have been having with Smash Bros.

**Stupid Flanders** · 01-07-2009, 06:22 PM

the tier list is based on potential, right? or is it based on the most "user-friendliness"? or both?

**samejamesbond** · 01-08-2009, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Stupid Flanders

the tier list is based on potential, right? or is it based on the most "user-friendliness"? or both?

The Tier list is who has the greatest potential, so this doesn't include counters

**EJT2012** · 01-10-2009, 04:50 PM

Personally, I believe that Ike and Link are the best characters in the game, annd next comes jigglypuff, yoshi, pikachu, mario, and kirby. They are the best in the game without a doubt.

**samejamesbond** · 01-12-2009, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by EJT2012

Personally, I believe that Ike and Link are the best characters in the game, annd next comes jigglypuff, yoshi, pikachu, mario, and kirby. They are the best in the game without a doubt.

The main reason characters are located where they are is because of many things,
-Ike might have the second most powerful foward smash but, his attacks are all slow and predictable
also he has the worst recovery in Brawl which acan be intercepted by anyone.
-Link might have a large abusable amount of equipment and weapons, he has an aweful recovery and very poor
attacking lag. His main killer, his down aerial, leaves him very open if it misses.
-Jigglypuff does have an excelent comboing ability but her only killer is her rollout which is EXTREMELY predictable
and her rest which is difficult to land and has the largest ending lag for any move, she also has the worst range in the game.
-Mario I do agree with you should be higher on the list, he is pritty unpredictble and his cape ruins many characters recoveries.

(I didn't feel like explaining the others, maybe another time)

**laserboy1134** · 01-12-2009, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Squall

he may not be the best, but he sure as hell comes close!

why is link so far down the list?!?

he's strong but he's very slow, so Toon Link is much better.