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Old 04-27-2013, 01:57 PM   #250
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Re: Twingalaxies down

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Originally Posted by pacwhiz View Post
LoL @ Tenser's pic/text :P


Are you Eric S.?
Do you really stand by that question?

That scoreboard became meaningless since TG(I):
1. failed to deal with all the glaring scoreboard issues (impossible scores, wrong tracks, mixed tracks, etc);
2. failed to support their volunteer staff and got so backlogged that countless (w)records were never entered into the database;
3. blocked the PUBLIC scores FROM.THE.PUBLIC (i.e. those without TG usernames);
4. became an entirely for-profit organization;
5. now charges montrous fees to (try to!) expand the scoreboard.
6. has created a situation that for the most part will only stimulate USA and possibly Canadian players (who are able to attend live events more easily/readily), to put arcade scores up on the scoreboard without having to pay fees (yes i know traveling costs a lot too, but that's not relevant to the issue).

Regardless of the reasons you gave here (although i do understand them), you are/were contributing to the exact reason that the TG(I) scoreboard became gradually more defunct. You are looking at it subjectively and not objectively. If players are not submitting their very best scores due to fear or worries of getting beat back again, scoreboard will NOT reflect any official level of anything! And now that the fees have reached preposterous heights, TG is further contributing to its own inevitable downfall. At least where the scoreboard is concerned. Better to start calling it "a collection of random scores from when TG was still doing okay".

This is unsporting of Clay, nevertheless your reasoning is flawed - how can he 'use your strategies against you', at most his score would then be equal to yours and you would have to put in more effort (as is the case in any competition anyway) to progress higher. If his score exceeds yours, then he is more efficient at using strategies, even if you're the one who developed them.

Fair point. Especially when you have a wide range of games you excel at such as yourself. I still feel strongly that hiding gameplay is not the (best) solution. It may solve your own leaderboard issues, but is detrimental to gaming as a whole. Are you here at RU to put in your 3rd best effort on games as well so that others can't see your newest strategies?


And to me, it does not make logical sense to hide your gameplay. I would welcome a challenge to have my own gameplay 'used against me', awesome! Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery after all. If you want to be the absolute best at a game, you want people including your closest competitor(s), to be able to SEE your actual gameplay and STILL not be able to top your scores! THAT is imo what equates to being at the top of the tree, not hiding strategies and sitting there hoping someone else doesn't develop better ones!

Aart


If you don't mind me butting in for a second, the best example to excelled gameplay in world record attempts is the NES game Gimmick.

Go search it, and see if you can bat the game, with all of the items, without a continue.

A guy has the world record, and is ahead of everyone by a full minute. His record hasn't been challenged because the guy is literally the Bruce Lee of Gimmick, and watching him play the game is like watching an art form.

There are going to be scores that people will not be able to duplicate. either because of RNG (Random Number Generation) or simply by luck. Technique and skill have plenty to do with it, but some world records just simply are based on either complete mastery of the game, or just dumb luck.

(I have the world record technically as per TG on Street Fighter Alpha on SNES, complete RNG luck, if you watched it, you would agree with me)

From what I've seen from the younger WR community, they share their work, and love the competition between themselves. Most of them are not pompous or withstanding of their records, and even generate followers and fans through streaming. Hell, even when I hit really big scores and people ask me what my strategies are, I give them to the people. What do I care if someone beats a score I have? I know I did something great, and I got a very large score and pushed someones motivation to beat something I created.

In short, don't be offended when someone decides to try to beat your world record. Not only are they trying to compete with you, but winning a race with yourself not only looks stupid but is a complete waste of your time.
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