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Originally Posted by Winnebagel
Dojah, if someone has the right to kill anyone because they don't agree with their views, where does it end? Does everyone in the world have to adhere to the beliefs of that one group just so they won't be killed? How is that right?
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I am not saying they have the right to kill because of different views. Even though all humans do have that right, or option I guess. I am saying I totally understand if someone gets hurt if those views are mocked publicly. Like I said earlier I dont believe people have to abide by anyones beliefs, but to simply respect them by not publicly mocking them.
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Originally Posted by Winnebagel
Based on that line of thinking, I guess it was okay that certain Muslims killed Theo Van Gogh for making an anti-Islam film. I guess it was also okay for the Christians who engaged in the Crusades and killed Muslims because those Muslims didn't agree with the Christian tenets. Further I guess it's okay when a Christian blows an abortion doctor away because the abortion doctor disrespected the Christian by performing abortions that the Christian didn't support.
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Well everyone has different truths, and one persons truths does not void anothers. I think you are taking my stance as respect others beliefs, as bow down and follow their beliefs, which is not the case. As for Theo, he said alot of things that would get people killed. It just happened some radical terrorists done it. He was a racist, a sexist who said many things. To actually refer to Mulims as people who have sex with goats(in worse words)!! Is that Okay?? I think not, or if that is ok with everyone then why cry after the case? Seems stupid to me. It seems no different than a white rapper using the N word to express himself. How is that cool with people?
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Originally Posted by Winnebagel
When someone gets a death threat because they drew Mohammed in a cartoon, something is wrong. It has been popular to make fun of Jesus and Christian iconography for years, but for the most part, the majority of Christians today don't seem to kill people when this happens. There was a time in the past when that wasn't the case, but the religion has moved past some of the previous barbarism it once ascribed to.
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Why is this person drawing Mohamed? What would make one do this? Because they are bored? It seems they are purposly trying to piss someone off. What I am getting at is if everyone shows a little bit of respect towards others things like this would probably not happen. Why push someones buttons purposly to feel like you expressed yourself? If I started to draw black people being lynched, yes thats my right, but whats the reasoning behind it? Does nobody see a problem there? In order to fix a problem I would think you should start at the origin, or nothing will ever get fixed.
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I have had some good friends who are Muslims as well, but maybe they were not as devout because they didn't think killing people over different beliefs was cool. I have had a couple of Buddhist friends too, and I have never heard them say anything about that either.
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My Muslim friends never thought it was ok or cool that people got killed, but they understand the reasoning behind it.
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Originally Posted by Winnebagel
I think freedom of speech is cool, and people should be able to believe what they want as long as it doesn't hurt/harm/kill someone else. When it starts to, it is no longer cool.
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Who determines when someone gets hurt/harmed? Are we only talking physical harm? Financial harm? Geographical harm?(being forced to move due to this)?
I mean it might be cool to let a bunch of KKK members to spout their beliefs, but when something happens, guess what...its to late, and people die.