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Originally Posted by Kong

I still think your the computer you are describing is overkill. Like I said before, I am cheap and always try to go with the bare minimum possible. You will like this machine, it just isn't how I personally would spend my money.

quad-core means it is like having 4 processors but actually you only have one. It used to be very easy compare processors. You just looked at the numbers. The numbers are almost meaningless now without looking at a table.

32bit Vista and I think all 32bit OS's can not recognize more than 3.5 GB of ram. Motherboards also have a limit of how much they can recognize. 12GB is ALOT. I do not know the limit of Windows 7 64bit or of your motherboard but before getting 12GB make sure they can support them. Just because HP is willing to sell it to you does not mean it will work.

My laptop has 3GB of RAM and has never given me a problem. I have never used more than 3.5. You can get away with much less.

I would say do not get the extra memory at all but Seahawk is right $160 for 4GB is very cheap. It is possible to buy the extra 4 or 8 later when the prices have gone down even more and add them yourself. They just snap in. Very easy.

Lightscribe means that your DVD burner can print a label on special DVDs. The label is just plain text, no fancy fonts or graphics. The special DVDs are more expensive. Save the money and get a regular DVD burner and a permanent marker. And use a thumb drive instead of a DVD burner when you can.

Get a good anti-virus. I use Antivirus Software, Anti-Spyware and Internet Security | F-Secure It is very good. Better than norton and avg.

I said this before, probably any problem you have on your old computer can be fixed by cleaning the fan and reinstalling Windows.

Windows 7 is better than Vista and XP. Especially on a computer as fast as the one you are considering.

64Bit OS are the future but in the present they can sometimes be hard to use. Not all software is 100% compatible yet.

I was gonna come on and post what my Mom said but you guys basically said what she said. xD

She said computers have a 3 year limit before they go past their time, and reccomended me getting a much cheaper one. Sadly I do not like Windows 7 64 bit (I'd prefer 32 bit) so I may see if I can just load vista on it.

I'll use 8GB then since all I want is to have a near unstoppable powerhouse on my hands. Processors is like the intel stuff right? So having 4 times could make Ru run faster than normal? Like 150% instead of 100?

Great advice, I never knew they had a limit. I really don't want 64 bit at all as stated above and by you in other threads.

I never burn DVD's actually, so I got the lowest I could.

Noted about F-secure.

I remember the fan tidbit, but don't remember the reinstalling windows thing. When I DO get a computer (back to the drawing boards btw) I am reformatting this after taking my fave things to the other computer and using it as a dummy laptop.

Originally Posted by Seahawk

I read Kong's post so I decided to do some more research on your conceptual machine.

I agree with Kong. I still don't think you need 12GB, and memory prices are dropping all of the time. You can get by with 8GB, and probably even less. Although with your specific computer the lower end is 8GB, but see my notes later in the post. The new Windows 7 64-bit machine at my parent's house that I'm posting on right now has only 3GB of RAM and is fine for playing and submitting high scores. It's also does PS1 emulator, and plays Radiant Silvergun (very intense for MAME) on MAME full speed. Even my main computer at that college dorm can do it.
And as Kong said you can buy more RAM at any electronics store.

Ok, so then I went over to the HP site and built your computer again. I'll try to organize all of the info so it causes the least confusion possible.

With exactly your specification, the computer cost $1,479.98.

I then tried tweaking it a little, choosing the HPE-170t series instead of the 180. I hit recommended configuration, not base configuration. With this there is an option for aIntel(R) Core(TM) i7-860 quad-core processor, same cache amount, but clocked at 2.8 Ghz instead. I put the RAM at 8GB. Everything else is the same. The price was $1,379.98.

Then I went again and built a HPE-150t series, recommended configuration. I built it to the exact specs as the above described 170t, price was $1,349.98.
With this same machine, if you drop the CPU to 2.66Ghz and RAM to 6GB, price is $1,169.98.

Of course, dropping more stuff will result in more savings.

And Kong, the lowest CD drive sold on all models has Lightscribe on it, so there is no way to get rid of this. Just letting you know.

Hope this helps more ^^/.

You know Seahawk, I'm very glad you're posting more.

How is Windows 7? Any bugs?

So, do youn think I should get the last one you mentioned? If so that should take me 2 months ma to get the cash. I do prefer a 1TB HD. I wanna actually not worry about memory for once.