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[Tails]

Originally Posted by Tenser

I think Chicago has decided to stay with Orton. Orton did everything Chicago wanted him to which isn't much. Just complete over 50% of your passes and make no turnovers.

Indi didn't take this game serious enough. That mixed with Addai and Clark getting injured caused them to lose.

Also, Favre really didn't show any promise in the Green East. To barely squeeze out over the Phins? Please...

All in all a great first week. Pretty boy out for the season, Pitt stompin' Houston, Bungels and Clowns going down. Very nice. ;D

He still won.

This week personally just made me have no enthusiasm for football, glad Brady is out.

[TrakMastaTom]

Originally Posted by Tenser

I think Chicago has decided to stay with Orton. Orton did everything Chicago wanted him to which isn't much. Just complete over 50% of your passes and make no turnovers.

Indi didn't take this game serious enough. That mixed with Addai and Clark getting injured caused them to lose.

Also, Favre really didn't show any promise in the Green East. To barely squeeze out over the Phins? Please...

All in all a great first week. Pretty boy out for the season, Pitt stompin' Houston, Bungels and Clowns going down. Very nice. ;D

It'll be nice for you until the Steelers plays an actual team.

[V ideoY3K]

Originally Posted by Tails

Its funny how the unexpected happened, Brady gone, Colts getting flattened by the bears. (please tell me Grossman will never play for them again.)

Question is if the Pats can't cut it will the Jets do good? Favre did pretty well from NFL.com when I was looking at the scores. Who's left in that division? The Bills?

@Video: Your like a half hour late. O_o From what I understand the Bears just completely flattened them, they might have a repeat of two years ago.

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I think Chicago has decided to stay with Orton. Orton did everything Chicago wanted him to which isn't much. Just complete over 50% of your passes and make no turnovers.

Indi didn't take this game serious enough. That mixed with Addai and Clark getting injured caused them to lose.

Also, Favre really didn't show any promise in the Green East. To barely squeeze out over the Phins? Please...

All in all a great first week. Pretty boy out for the season, Pitt stompin' Houston, Bungels and Clowns going down. Very nice. Grin

@ Tails: I had to deal with a virus that infected my system. Glad I finally got rid of it.

@ Tenser: Congraduations on your Steelers' win.

The Bears looked real good & (guess what?), they got a running game. I can see them going to the Super Bowl.

Seems like the Colts weren't really into that game. For one thing, Marvin Harrison kept either fumbling the ball, or dropping passes. He's their star receiver. They can't have that. And Clark & Addai are out too. I'd say I'm speechless, but I got a few more points to give here.

Sure the "New York Farves" won yesterday, it's just the Dolphins people, It's just the Dolphins.

You're not the only ones, Tails & Tenser. I'm glad Brady's out too. Other then Chad Johnson & (I believe) Tony Romo will be this year, Brady is the NFL's biggest sports tabloid star. He seems like someone you'll (for some reason or another) love to hate. I know I do.

[Kugyince]

I just hate how the media couldn't care less about a quarterback unless his last name is Brady of Manning. My boy ended last season with the highest QB rating but no, focus on the friggin' Cheatriots. I hate the Pats with a passion. They cost my team two superbowl runs and we're one of the teams they were caught taping.

Brady and Manning have done what Woods has for golf. Its disgusting how ESPN refuses to give equal coverage to all teams.

[Tails]

Video, my username is Tails, not tales..

Seems we agree on the patriots Tenser, they suck.

Granted they now have my favorite defensive player.. Deltha O'niel.

Brady is an exceptional quarterback, but the job becomes drastically easier when you have an average of 4 to 5 seconds to make a decision. With their O-line still intact, I believe the Cassell-led Patriots will be able to win somewhere around 10 to 12 games. For all we know Cassell could be a horse. The guy has been a part of winning football teams his entire career. You might not have thought of this, but he was probably running reps against the 1st team defenses of both USC and New England during his tenures at both places. If he's been a sponge for the past 8 years he might turn out to be pretty good.

I never like to see somebody get hurt and especially not to the extent that Brady is. I'm speaking from experience when I say that an ACL reconstruction is extremely painful and the road to recovery is a long one.

On a lighter note, I hope everyone is as geared up as I am for "Clash of the Titans I" next week on Monday Night Football.

[Tails]

Pit and Cle BH?

Anyways, funny you mention USC, wasn't he backup for Palmer when he wasn't scared?

Originally Posted by Tails

Anyways, funny you mention USC, wasn't he backup for Palmer when he wasn't scared?

He was Palmer's backup, but I don't know what you mean by "when he wasn't scared".

[Tails]

Originally Posted by Billy Hoyle

He was Palmer's backup, but I don't know what you mean by "when he wasn't scared".

Well Palmer now looks very scared, won't rush, and just isn't the same since his injury in the playoff game. Back in USC and before the injury he was really good, now he had to go back to fundamentals and with how he performed versus Baltimore, he does not look pretty.

[TrakMastaTom]

On the topic of Brady and Manning, the best QBs get the most coverage. That's how it goes. Tenser, your boy Ben got a ton of coverage when he won all those games his rookie year, cause it was rather spectacular. He hasn't had any more spectacular years, so he hasn't been the focus. Brady and Manning are both doing huge things in the NFL. Networks aren't going to give teams equal covereage, they are going to get as much coverage as they can on the teams that people want to see.

I like Manning, I don't really like Brady, and I am as sick as anyone of watching the Patriots win everything.

I also don't approve of cheering due to injuries.

That is all.

[Kugyince]

Originally Posted by TrakMastaTom

On the topic of Brady and Manning, the best QBs get the most coverage. He (Ben) hasn't had any more spectacular years

I disagree with all the above.

1. Except for his 2006 injury year ben has always ranked above either Manning or Brady.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statis...on=2&year=2007

2004
1st Manning
5th Roethlisberger
9th Brady

2005
1st Manning
3rd Roethlisberger
6th Brady

2006
1st Manning
9th Brady
21st Roethlisberger

2007
1st Brady
2nd Roethlisberger
4th Manning

2. If they were catering to the team most people wanted to see then it would be the Steelers. They have the largest fan base in the NFL. Incidentally Pitt has the most female fans as well. http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/20750560/

[Tails]

@Tenser: was wondering something, who do you rank as the best Steelers QB in franchise history?

[Kugyince]

Originally Posted by Tails

@Tenser: was wondering something, who do you rank as the best Steelers QB in franchise history?

It's not like Pitt has a long history of great QBs to choose from. Bradshaw had the rings but he also had the greatest football team in history to work with. Ben has one but I think he's good for one more before he retires.

[Tails]

Originally Posted by Tenser

It's not like Pitt has a long history of great QBs to choose from. Bradshaw had the rings but he also had the greatest football team in history to work with. Ben has one but I think he's good for one more before he retires.

See I respect Bradshaw, but why is it the greatest football team in history? What about Marino and the Dolphins? Brady and the Pats last year? What about Montanna of the 49ers? Bart Starr and the Packers?`

[Kugyince]

Originally Posted by Tails

See I respect Bradshaw, but why is it the greatest football team in history? What about Marino and the Dolphins? Brady and the Pats last year? What about Montanna of the 49ers? Bart Starr and the Packers?`

God is a Steelers fan.

[thebird1003]

I disagree with that. By far the 49ers teams with Montanna and Rice were the best, and the best passing game was defiantly Marino and the Mark bros. had the best passing game. The only thing i give to the Steelers is there history of pounding the rock up defenses throats.

[Kugyince]

Nope, there's only one thing that matters in the NFL and that's winning the big dance. Everything else is just a side dish.

Originally Posted by Tails

@Tenser: was wondering something, who do you rank as the best Steelers QB in franchise history?

I think it's pretty obvious who the best quarterback in Steelers history is...

BUBBY!!!

[Kugyince]

Originally Posted by Tenser

Nope, there's only one thing that matters in the NFL and that's winning the big dance. Everything else is just a side dish.

Oh, I'm sorry, the two Eagles fans here wouldn't understand what a Superbowl winning quarterback looks like. Allow me to help:

Here's one:

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Oh! found another one:

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One more? Oh wait, this isn't one...

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[TrakMastaTom]

Originally Posted by Tenser

I disagree with all the above.

1. Except for his 2006 injury year ben has always ranked above either Manning or Brady.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/statis...on=2&year=2007

2004
1st Manning
5th Roethlisberger
9th Brady

2005
1st Manning
3rd Roethlisberger
6th Brady

2006
1st Manning
9th Brady
21st Roethlisberger

2007
1st Brady
2nd Roethlisberger
4th Manning

2. If they were catering to the team most people wanted to see then it would be the Steelers. They have the largest fan base in the NFL. Incidentally Pitt has the most female fans as well. http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/20750560/

1. Is this passer rating? Regardless, having the best passer rating isn't an "exceptional" feat. Someone does it every year. An exceptional feat:
Crushing the record for most TD passes in a season
Coming a game away from being the second team in history to win every game in a season

2. We were talking dudes, not teams. The media is way more focused on superstars these days it would seem, not who is playing like a team.

[Kugyince]

Neither is tearing an ACL an "exceptional" feat. Its common enough in sports.

Neither is have your starting QB taken out of the first game because on injury. Come on Tommy, we both know the media spends way too much time catering to its pretty boys.

1,000 points says you can't name the other two starting QB's that were injured Sunday without looking it up. Hell, just the teams that they played on. The media doesn't give two steaming piles about them.

Answers inside:

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Kansas City's Brodie Croyle
Tennessee's Vince Young

[Tails]

Does Brady count?

him and Vince Young of the Titans. I know I remember Vince since we play them next week.

[TrakMastaTom]

Originally Posted by Tenser

1,000 points says you can't name the other two starting QB's that were injured Sunday without looking it up. Hell, just the teams that they played on. The media doesn't give two steaming piles about them.

Answers inside:

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Kansas City's Brodie Croyle
Tennessee's Vince Young

I wouldn't have even known Brady tore his ACL if it wasn't for you guys. I haven't payed any attention at all so far this season. I think being out for the season is a pretty big deal when you have been a dominating force in the NFL for the past thousand seasons and are expected to do it again.

And Brady, yeah, but Manning a pretty boy? I must be looking at him wrong.

@ Tenser: That's messed up. I respect the Steelers; I'm originally from Pa. I even gave Myron Cope his due respect in a previous post in this thread. I can take solace in the fact that there was a smile brought to your face upon reminicsing of the Brister Era...

@ TMT: I couldn't agree more. The Manning Brothers are lucky they are good at football. If they weren't, there's no way they would have been able to spend a fraction of the quality time with the high caliber women that I'm sure they have. Some ugly mugs on them boys.

[Tails]

Is Peyton married?